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Friday, January 5, 2024

Paw Paw's Birth—Born in 1913, Filed in 1932

Source:  Johnson County, Illinois, "Record of Births Reported to County Clerk," delayed birth certificate unnumbered (1932), volume 5, p. 427, Retta May Martin; County Clerk's Office, Vienna.

[Note: Pre-printed form with transcribed answers in bold.]


Record of Births Reported to County Clerk

427 [stamped]

Certificate of Birth


1. PLACE OF BIRTH

    County of: Johnson

    Township of, Road District of, or Village of: [Blank]

    or City of: [Blank]

    Registration District No.: [Blank]

    Primary District No.: [Blank]

    Registered No. (Consecutive No.): [Blank]

    Street and Number, No.: [Blank]

    St.: [Blank]

    Ward: [Blank]

    Hospital: [Blank]

    (If birth occurred in hospital or institution, give its name instead of street and number.)

2. FULL NAME OF CHILD: Retta May Martin

    If child is not yet named, make supplemental report, as directed.

3. Sex of Child: F

4. Twin, triplet, or other?: [Blank]

5. Number in order of birth: [Blank]

    (To be answered only in the event of Plural births.)

6. Legitimate?: yes

7. Date of birth: (Month) May (Day) 28 (Year) 1914

FATHER

8. FULL NAME: J.A. Martin

9. RESIDENCE (P.O. Address) Buncombe

10. COLOR: white

11. AGE AT LAST BIRTHDAY: 41 Years

12. BIRTHPLACE (City or Place): [Blank]

      (Name State, if in U.S.): Ill

      (Name County, if Foreign): [Blank]

13. OCCUPATION: Engineer

      (Nature of Industry): [Blank]

MOTHER

14. FULL MAIDEN NAME: Lilly may Ally

15. RESIDENCE (P.O. Address): Buncombe

16: COLOR: White

17: AGE AT LAST BIRTHDAY: 21 Years

18. BIRTHPLACE (City or Place): [Blank]

      (Name State, if in U.S.): Ill

      (Name Country, if Foreign): [Blank]

19. OCCUPATION: Hwife

      (Nature of Industry): [Blank]

20. NUMBER OF CHILDREN OF THIS MOTHER (Taken as of time of birth of child herein certified and including this child)

      (a) Born alive and now living: 3

      (b) Born alive and now dead: 1

      (c) Stillborn: 0

WHAT TREATMENT WAS GIVEN CHILD'S EYES AT BIRTH?: [Blank]

21. CERTIFICATE OF ATTENDING PHYSICIAN OR MIDWIFE*

I hereby certify that I attended the birth of this child, who was born alive at [BLANK] M., on the date above stated.

*When there is no attending physician or midwife, then the father, mother, householder, etc., shall make this return.  See Sec. 12 of vital stastistics law.

22. (Signature) (Physician or Midwife): J.A. Martin Father M.D. Midwife

      Address: [Blank]

      Telephone: [Blank]

      Date Certificate Signed: (Month) [Blank] (Day) [Blank] Year 192[Blank]

23. Given name added from a supplemental report: (Month) [Blank] (Day) [Blank], (Year) 192[Blank]

      Registrar: [Blank]

24. Filed: [Blank], 192[Blank]

      Registrar: [Blank]

      Post Office Address: [Blank]

Filed for Record this 5/11 day of [Blank] 19232

Clerk: Martha. E. Burris, [Signature]


**********

Analysis

While not marked as delayed, it is a delayed birth registration. J.A. Martin, or Joel Arthur Martin clearly registered his daughter Retta May Martin's (Paw Paw, my paternal grandmother) birth well after her birth. It is not surprising her parents did not register it earlier since they lived in rural Johnson County, Illinois. 

Handwriting suggests the person who filled out the form is the same person who signed "J.A. Martin Father" but differs from the clerk's signature. It is possible that Joel filled it out himself as he could read and write.[1] There is no registration number assigned to this registration. The spelling of her name differs from how she spelled it, "Rettie Maye". The listed date of birth differs from what Paw Paw reported on her social security application, 28 April 1913, which is also listed on her death certificate.[2]

My Notes and Thoughts


Rettie Maye Martin, 15 years old, abt. 1928.


Most likley born at her rural home, it is hard to say which birthdate is correct for her because she wasn't exactly truthful about a lot of things for many reasons, some known. Also, I wonder what prompted him to do it on 11 May 1932, specifically. Paw Paw did not apply for a social security number until 1968, but that is usually why a delayed birth certificate would be needed. [3]


Rettie Maye with her son Joseph Marshall, February 1937

There are two reasons I am interested in this document. First, I am trying to track down where she was after 1930 and before December 1936, when my father was born.[4] Did she go back to southern Illinois between living in Fort Bend County, Texas in 1930 and living in San Antonio, Bexar, Texas in 1936? Did she go back and forth?


L-R: Carole Marshall, Joel Arthur Martin, and Joseph Marshall, c.1942


Second, her father Joel, my paternal great grandfather, is a mystery, too, in this time period and around his death in 1948.[5] This document nails his feet down, so to speak, in Johnson County on that filing date in 1932. When I received her birth certificate after going back and forth with the state archives and the county clerk's office, I was just so happy to have received it that his occupation did not click with me until I transcribed the form. He listed "Engineer" as his occupation.

I had previously hypothesized he had worked for the railroad: 

  • There isn't much industry in southern Illinois other than agriculture, the railroad, and coal.
  • I have a photo of him in a uniform that makes one think "railroad."
  • His pocketwatch was one that a railroad worker would have used.
  • And in 1930, seemingly randomly since they were from Johnson County, Illinois, his children—Roscoe (19), Rettie Maye (16), and Mabel (14)—are living by themselves on a rented farm in rural Fort Bend County, Texas, near the town of Katy, named after the Missouri, Kansas, Texas (M-K-T) railroad line. [6]

Joel Arthur Martin and his pocketwatch.



When I looked at some railroad maps in that time period, I determined one could take the train from Vienna, Illinois, to St. Louis, Missouri, and hop on a Missouri, Kansas, Texas (M-K-T) train and be on their way down to Ft. Bend County, Texas. Also, the M-K-T had a stop in San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, where Paw Paw eventually ended up and gave birth to my dad in 1936. Likewise, one can also hop on a M-K-T train in Texas and head back home pretty easily too. Wild and far-fetched, I know, but...

That one word, "Engineer," on the occupation blank on her delayed birth certificate was exciting to see and lends a little more weight to my theory. Now to find the M-K-T railroad files. The Houston History Research Center has some M-K-T records. I'll contact them to see what all they have. And I'll explore the railroad history in Johnson County, Illinois. Did Joel work for them? Are there any extant records? What kind? By 1940, Joel is not working and living in Bloomfield, Illinois, near his youngest daughter Mabel and her family, but it is possible he did not die in Illinois at all.[7] So, if not, where did he die? Maybe he died there and it wasn't recorded, like his daughter's birth.

Someone recorded Joel's death on his tombstone and another memorialized it on Find A Grave. It indicates he died in 1948. [8] 

  • The state of Illinois and Johnson County do not have a record of his death. [9]
  • He doesn't appear on the Social Security Index. [10]
  • He doesn't appear on the Railroad Retirement Index (1934-1987). [11] 
Presumably family buried him next to his wife Lillie May in the Taylor United Methodist Church in Vienna where their landline is no longer working. [12]😅I contacted the Johnson County Genealogical Society via Facebook, but they directed me to Find A Grave. I then wrote the society, but they did not have any information sbout my Martin family, but they verified the church was still open and passed along my inquiry about the church to someone at the church. That person sent me a random picture of Joel's tombstone (from Find A Grave) via text, but did not return my immediate text response explaining that I was in search of his burial record, nor did they answer my phone call. So, I've explained to my husband that if my letter direct to the church yields nothing, then we need to head to Johnson County, Illinois, because I think being boots on the ground would be easier. And faster. LOL. I could then have a look-see at probate, tax, and land records too.😘 

So, more work to do to flesh out their story and to solve other research problems. Our work is never done is it?

~Caroline


1. 1900 U.S. census, Johnson County, Illinois, Bloomfield, population schedule, Enumeration District (ED) 36, p. 176 (stamped), sheet 8-B, dwelling 113, family 113, Joel Martin household; image, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7602/ : 12 August 2021), National Archives microfilm T623, roll 309.
2. Maye Marshall, SS no. 451-98-8135, 12 August 1968, Application for Account Number (Form SS-5), Social Security Administration, Maryland. Also, Texas Department of State Health Services Vital Statstics Unit, death certificate no. 142-03-036004, Maye M. Marshall, 9 April 2003; Texas Department of Health, Austin.
3. Maye Marshall, SS no. 451-98-8135, 12 August 1968, Application for Account Number (Form SS-5), Social Security Administration, Maryland.
4. City of San Antonio Board of Health, birth certificate no. 6441 (1936), Baby Martin; Bureau of Vital Statistics, San Antonio. And, Texas Department of State Health Services, delayed birth certificate no. 843951 (1943), Joesph Kent Marshall Jr; Vital Statstics Unit, Austin.
5. Ancestry, Find A Grave (http://www.findagrave.com : 25 March 2021), database with images, memorial #50505974, Joel Arthur Martin (1871-1948), Taylor United Methodist Church Cemetery, Vienna, Johnson, Illinois; gravestone photograph by chris cornell.
6. 1930 U.S. census, Fort Bend, Texas, Precinct 8, population schedule, Enumeration District (ED) 20, p. 283 (stamped), sheet 1-B, dwelling no. 20, family no. 20, Roscow Martin household; image, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/6224/ : 11 July 2011), National Archives microfilm T626, roll 2333. 
7. 1940 U.S. census, Johnson County, Illinois, Bloomfield, population schedule, Enumeration District (ED) 44-1, p. 3423 (stamped), sheet 1-B, household 18, James W. Blacketer household; image, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 19 Mar 2020); National Archives microfilm T627, roll 4208.
8. Ancestry, Find A Grave (http://www.findagrave.com : 25 March 2021), database with images, memorial #50505974, Joel Arthur Martin (1871-1948), Taylor United Methodist Church Cemetery, Vienna, Johnson, Illinois; gravestone photograph by chris cornell.
9. Illinois Department of Health, "Certification That Record Was Not Found," 14 December 2020, Joel Arthur Martin, date of death 1948, Johnson County, Illinois. And, Johnson County Clerk, Letter indicating record not found, 11 April 2022, Joel Arthur Martin, date of death 1948, Johnson County, Illinois.
10. "U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014," database and images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/3693/ : 22 March 2022), negative search for "Joel Arthur Martin"and "J.A. Martin" born in 1871, died in 1948.
11. "U.S., Railroad Retirement Pension Index, 1934-1987," database and images, Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61597/ : 2 April 2022), negative search for "Joel Arthur Martin" and "J.A. Martin" born in 1871, died in 1948. 
12. Ancestry, Find A Grave (http://www.findagrave.com : 25 March 2021), database with images, memorial #50505974, Joel Arthur Martin (1871-1948), Taylor United Methodist Church Cemetery, Vienna, Johnson, Illinois; gravestone photograph by chris cornell.


Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Wordless Wednesday - Alexander & Matilda


Alexander & Matilda Adaline Jane (Simmons) Vaughn are my 3rd great-grandparents on my Paw Paw's (my dad's mom's) side of the family.

Alexander Vaughn was born 11 Nov 1832 in TN and Matilda was born 24 Dec 1838 in IL.  They were married 2 Aug 1854 in New Burnside Village, Johnson County, IL.  Alexander died  16 Mar 1911 in IL and Matilda died 10 Feb 1920 in Carbondale, Jackson County, IL.  Their daughter Catherine Caroline (Vaughn) Alley Lowery Colboth was my 2nd great-grandmother.

Friday, October 30, 2009

Here's My Plan, Stan

[Note: This is a series of posts that is an investigation of 5 murders.  The first post was "He Had Me At 'Detective,'" and this post is my plan of attack, so to speak.]


Here's the Problem:
If the fire that killed my grandmother's brother, Roscoe Benton Martin, and his four children in 1957 was ruled as arson, then who killed them?  Whether the arson investigation was solved or not, who set the fire and why?


So, What Do I Know?
  • Roscoe Benton Martin was born on 19 Mar 1911 in Bloomfield, Johnson County, Illinois to Joel Arthur Martin and Lillie May (Alley) Martin. He was the second of four children in total and the first of three children surviving to adulthood.
  • His mother, Lillie May died 6 Jun 1918 when Roscoe was 7yo.
  • Roscoe is found with his father and two sisters in Stonefort, Williamson County, Illinois in the 1920 population census.
  • Roscoe was in the United States Army [as per 2 photographs of my grandmother's now in my possession].
  • Roscoe was living with his two sisters, Rettie Maye and Mabel Irene in Precinct 8, Fort Bend County, Texas in the 1930 population census.
  • Roscoe married Norma Ethel Conroy sometime before 1942 in Johnson County, Illinois.
  • Roscoe and Norma had four children: Jack, Bill, Jerry, and Cheryl Maye [exact dates need verification].
  • Norma Ethel Conroy was born abt. 1922 in Johnson County, Illinois to Emmett Cecil Conroy and Frieda A. Hall. Her siblings were William N. Conroy and Raymond Lester Conroy.
  • According to my grandmother, Roscoe died in a house fire trying to save his children in Illinois.
  • Information found in two newspaper articles (The Hammond Times 16 Jul 1957 and 17 Jul 1957 accessed on Ancestry.com) is as follows:

    1. Roscoe (46yo), John (14yo), William (12yo), Jerry (10yo), and Cheryl (3yo) were all killed Sunday, 14 Jul 1957 in a house fire approximately 6 miles north of Vienna, Illinois.
    2. Don Pender (a guest in the home), Roscoe, and a Billy McCuan (from nearby Tunnell Hill) were all “in the home prior to the fire”.
    3. Norma Martin, Roscoe's wife, escaped from the fire “uninjured”.
    4. The fire was reported by Don Pender, who also escaped the fire.
    5. Billy McCuan was found sleeping in his car near the home.”
    6. An empty 5-gallon gasoline can was found outside the home and two rooms in the home were found to have gasoline in them, leading investigators to suspect arson.
    7. The bodies were retrieved from under a portion of the tin roof.”
    8. Firemen were hindered due to a lack of water near the residence and had to draw water from a nearby pond.”
    9. Three state investigators, armed with a lie detector, launched an arson investigation.”
    10. Norma Martin (Roscoe's wife), Don Pender, and Billy McCuan were all “given a lie detector test and were completely cleared from any connection to the fire.”
    11. The Johnson County, Illinois sheriff at the time was Orlan Cox.
    12. The police chief (of Vienna?) was Bill Barnett.
    13. After the lie detector test, Sheriff Cox still felt that it was arson, but “had no leads.”
      What Do Others Know?
      Online memorials were found on findagrave:
      • A wife of a distant cousin created online memorials on Findagrave for Roscoe, John, William, Jerry, and Cheryl. She mentions the fire, and that they were all killed in it.
      • Also states the full names of Roscoe and his children: Roscoe Benton, John Winston, William Lester, Jerry Ray, and Cheryl Maye.
      • States all of their ages at death, full birth dates [John b.14 Sep 1942; William b. 26 Apr 1945; Jerry b. 18 Sep 1948; Cheryl b. 2 Oct 1953] and their death date.
      • The birthdate that is listed on the online memorial for Roscoe Benton Martin is the same birthdate that my Paw Paw listed on the back of his Army headshot photo.
      • States that Roscoe had been in the United States Army from 1929-1939.
      • States they are all buried in Taylor Cemetery in Vienna, Johnson County, Illinois.
        So, I Think I Have A Few Questions...

      • Was Roscoe employed at the time of the fire? If so, what was his occupation? Had Norma been employed outside of the home?
      • How was Roscoe's and Norma's relationship? Were they “getting along”?
      • Who were Billy McCuan and Don Pender, and how well did Roscoe and Norma know them?
      • According to the newspaper article, the bodies were retrieved from under a portion of the tin roof. How were the bodies laying, exactly, and where? Were they all together?
      • How big was the house? Did each child have their own room, or did they share?
      • Was Don Pender going to stay the night? Where was he from?
      • Why was Billy McCuan sleeping in his car? Had he or any of the others been drinking alcoholic beverages?
      • What time did the fire start, and when was it reported?
      • How did Don Pender report the fire? Did he make the phone call before he exited the house?
      • Were there other houses nearby? Had they been living in a neighborhood or in the country?
      • What 2 rooms in the house had been doused with gasoline?
      • How can a lie detector test be used to clear 3 people in an arson case in 1957 when in 2009 the results of a lie detector test aren't usually admissable in court?
      • How accurate was a lie detector test in 1957? What is the timeline & history of the lie detector test?
      • Where was Roscoe's father, Joel Arthur Martin living at the time of the fire? What other relatives lived in the area?
      • Did Norma's family live nearby?
      • If 2 rooms in the house had been doused with gasoline [obviously before the fire] and the house had been occupied by Roscoe, Norma, Billy McCuan, and Don Pender before the fire, why didn't they smell the gasoline? The fumes would have been quite noticeable.
      • Previous to their guests coming over, had they left the house unoccupied on the day of the fire, Sunday? When and for how long?
      • Where had the children been? Was the fire before “bedtime” or after?
      • Has this arson case ever been solved? Where would this investigation paperwork be located now?
      • If 3 state investigators gave the lie detector test, would there be any state-level investigation paperwork, and where would that be located?
      • What happened to Norma after the fire? Where did she go?
      So, Where To Look?
      What To Do First?
      I will outline my strategy in the next post/update as well as any research I've completed at the time. My plan involves using genealogical skills combined with some “creativity”. It's also going to take some ingenuity because I have no budgetary plans to travel to Johnson County, Illinois [unfortunately]. The first thing I'll need to do is give you the “lay of the land,” so to speak. I've never been there, but all of my grandmother's lines come from there, and I've had the opportunity to “meet” some researchers from this area online as well as research the area. Hopefully, this will help. It was a close-knit community then, and it's a close-knit community now. Moreover, it's an area where “outsiders” aren't really welcome, but I'm getting ahead of myself. More on this community and the time period in which this crime took place will be in my next post. So, that's my plan, Stan. Have I forgotten anything? [I'm sure I have...] Or do you have any additional questions that you think I should be asking?  Let me know.  Please, post your comments below.

      Wednesday, May 6, 2009

      Martians, Marshmallows, and Genealogy...


      Paw Paw
      This is my Paw Paw [my grandmother on my dad's side]. These are some of my favorite pictures of her because they are so expressive. The picture in the center I think is very fitting for Mother's Day, as this was taken with her children [my dad and aunt]. Rettie Maye was born in Southern Illinois in 1913 and was the daughter of Lillie Mae Alley and the grandaughter of Catharine Caroline Vaughn [both also of Southern Illinois]




      Stop Calling Me a Martian!
      Growing up I always hated my middle name, Martin. When you're a kid, you don't want to be different and my name was definitely not the norm - 2 surnames or a man's name for a middle name [definitely not cool]. I was the object of a lot of teasing and name-calling when other kids found out my middle name. The most popular names were martian and marshmallow. The second nickname making fun of my last name, Marshall [cuz hey, why not?], and sometimes there was that kid in the crowd that put them together: Martian Marshmallow [ha-ha. Very funny]. No worries, though, I'm made of sterner stuff than that, and although I'd like to say that I took the high road and ignored them, I can't. I gave as good as I got...[after all, what would you expect from a bossy, oops, I mean managing woman/girl?




      Mom, Why Did You Give Me the Middle Name, Martin?
      I just never understood why my mom gave me the name, and I never thought to ask until much later in life. So, why did she give me the middle name, Martin? She said that I was named after Paw Paw's maiden name, and that Paw Paw and I [at the time I asked] were the only one's left in her father's line to carry on the name, and she went on to explain that my Paw Paw's brother and all of his kids died in a house fire [arson: a story for another day]...




      Oh. [sigh] Now I've got to say that since that day, I've been so very proud to be named after her...My Paw Paw died in 2003 and now I'm left to carry on the Martin name. Happy Mother's Day, Paw Paw!



      [So, does anyone else have any childhood nicknames that they hated, or how about a family story behind a maternal name in your family? Share it in comments, if you want...]



      Caroline


      Tuesday, May 5, 2009

      "She wrote, 'My Mother'"

      A Wonderful Discovery
      The week after Hurricane Ike the kids and I stayed with my sister in San Antonio for several days.  On the last day right before we left, she mentioned that she had a couple of "tubs" of stuff that was mom and dad's and asked me if I wanted to go through it. [Well, duh...]  To my utter surprise I found many family photographs, memorabilia, and old school projects [of my dad's].  I was so ecstatic.  She also said I needed to get over to mom's house because there were more "tubs" to go through.  [I have yet to go back, but it's on top of my summer "to-do" list.]

      Lillie Mae Alley
      This is one of the precious photographs that I found of my great-grandmother on my dad's side, Lillie Mae Alley.  She was the daughter of Catharine Caroline Vaughn who I introduced you to yesterday.  This is the photograph of her that my grandma [my Paw-Paw] had of her mother.  She looks so young, and after doing some research, I found that she'd married very young and died young, so this photograph truly captures her innocence and her life.  She passed away when my Paw-Paw was only 6 years old.  Lillie Mae gave birth to four children: Little Pearl, Roscoe Benton, Rettie Maye [my Paw-Paw], and Mabel Irene.  Little Pearl passed away when just an infant, and until I found her, no one knew she'd existed.  I wonder if my Paw-Paw had known...
      Lillie Mae Alley

      My Paw-Paw wrote, "My Mother"
      While it's never easy to lose a loved one, certainly this was a difficult age for my Paw-Paw to lose her mother, and I wonder what she thought about this photograph that she had of her mother.  On the back, my Paw-Paw wrote simply, "Lillie Mae Alley (my mother).  Following are the lyrics of a song called "Photograph" that accurately captures the feeling I get when looking at family photographs...[written and performed by Charlie Robison, a Texas music performer; see my music picks in my sidebar.]:


      Photograph
      [written & performed by
      Charlie Robison]
      Well I got a picture
      It's glued in a book
      Of most of my family,
       that somebody took

      Well Grandpa died early
      Before I could know
      The man that they tell me
      That I take after so

      Well I don't remember
      But it still makes me laugh
      When I see us together
      In a photograph

      Well mama and daddy
      Burned hot like a flame
      But it all turned ashes
      With no one to blame

      and I can still see them
      But not in my mind
      It's been so long
      All my memories lie

      Well I can't remember
      But it still makes me laugh
      When I see us together
      In a photograph

      Well it happened last winter
      We had a son
      And they took a picture
      Of family, round one

      It's there to remind you
      For when you can't recall
      What your daddy looked like
      When you were so small

      Though you won't remember
      It'll still make you laugh
      When you see us together
      In a photograph

      No you won't remember
      It'll still make you laugh
      When you see us together
      In a photograph

      Happy Mother's Day, Lillie Mae...

      Caroline

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